This cause comes into this court on a petition in error to the common pleas court of Cuyahoga county; the purpose being.to reverse a judgment of conviction under an indictment. charging the defendant, Sol Hart, the plaintiff in error here, with carrying a concealed weapon on or about the 8th day of September, 1925.,
*502To this indictment a plea of not guilty was entered, and, after the case was submitted to the jury, a verdict of guilty was rendered. A motion for a new trial was properly made and overruled, and a bill of exceptions was taken and filed in this court, together with a petition in error, alleging several errors, each of which it is claimed is sufficient to warrant, if not to compel, a reversal of the judgment and a remanding for a new trial.
From the record and argument of counsel we learn that there is quite a history to this litigation, and that Sol Hart was indicted on September 18, 1931, in three separate indictments, charging the same character of crime, to wit, that of carrying concealed weapons: (1) Carrying concealed weapons on May 19, 1925; (2) the one under discussion in this record on September 8, 1925; and (3) on October 9, 1926.
These cases were tried in the court of common pleas in the reverse order of the dates on which the crimes were committed.
It will be noted that considerable time had elapsed between the committing of the offenses and the filing of the indictments under discussion.
We learn through briefs and arguments, at least, that these same events had been before a former prosecutor and the grand juries under his control, and that all three of the cases were “no billed.” Subsequently, and much more recently, as will be seen, another prosecutor called the matter before another grand jury and the indictments were returned as already stated, and the cases were tried in the reverse order in which the crimes were committed, and in each case the jury found the defendant guilty.
One case, to wit, the last crime in the order of commission, has been affirmed by this court; so we are somewhat familiar with the circumstances.
We have deemed it necessary to cite this much of *503the record and the matters leading np to the conviction by reason of the argument adduced by the plaintiff in error’s counsel as to why there is error in this record that would warrant and compel the court to reverse the judgment.
In the trial of this action, which took place in the September Term, 1931, the term in which all the three mentioned cases were tried, and in which a conviction was had in each case, it is claimed that error was committed, both as to the way in which the sentence was imposed and as to the cross-examination and recross-examination in the matter of defense, and in the introduction in rebuttal of similar offenses.
Of course, a plea of not guilty threw the burden upon the state to prove beyond a reasonable doubt all the elements which constituted the crime.
The defendant really set up two defenses. In the judgment of the court they were probably not consistent, but, assuming that they are not inconsistent, one of the defenses was that Hart did not carry this revolver, that it was not found in his possession.
From the record we learn that on the night in question, which was about ten minutes after twelve a. m., Hart, somewhere in the neighborhood of Woodland avenue and East Fifty-Fifth street, got into a cab and was to be taken out to East 105th street and Massie avenue; that while driving from the place where he got into the cab to his destination there was a tie-up on the street railway, and the driver of Hart’s cab, having gone on the wrong side of the street car on East 105th street, was stopped by the policeman. The policeman, after being told by the driver that his passenger ordered him to go around the car because he was in a hurry, opened the door of the cab, and this automatically lit up the interior, and there he found Hart with his foot covering a revolver on the floor of *504the cab, and in his pocket was an exploded cartridge which fitted this revolver.
One defense was, as already stated, that he did not have this gnn in his possession, or, in other words, that he did not know that it was there. Inasmuch as he did not get upon the witness stand, the manner of proof was more by insinuation than by way of direct proof. The cab driver got on the stand in behalf of the defendant below, and testified that he had two colored men in his cab prior to Hart’s advent into the cab, and that they had left just before Hart got in, and that he did not examine the interior of the cab after they had left to see whether anything was on the floor or not, and therefore it was sought by insinuation and suggestion to prove that the revolver may have been in the cab prior to Hart entering therein. Hart did not get upon the witness stand to testify, and all that we have upon that proposition is the inference that might be drawn from the driver’s testimony. This becomes a matter of some importance because one of the errors complained of in the record is that former arrests for carrying concealed weapons were introduced in rebuttal, at least one before and one after. The purpose of this undoubtedly was to show the character of Hart and that he was not averse at least to carrying a revolver, as bearing upon the question whether this revolver was under his control or in his possession, or close to him, at the time of his arrest, to overcome the inference that might be drawn from the driver’s testimony.
In taking this whole matter into consideration, we do not think that permitting the prosecutor to refer to the other times when Hart was arrested for carrying concealed weapons was error on the part of the trial court, but that this was permissible, if not proper, under the circumstances, as bearing upon the questions whether or not Hart knew of the proximity to *505Ms person of tMs revolver and whether or not it was knowingly under Ms control. If it was, of course lie was carrying or had control of a concealed weapon and had violated the statute. And now that brings me to the second defense.
The second defense, whether consistent or not, was in effect that Hart worked for commission merchants by the name of Kyman Bros., who had to deliver vegetables and other products to various customers, including Fisher Bros., at various times night and day, and that there had been a considerable loss by theft after they had delivered the products to the Fisher Bros, stores, and that, in order to protect the employer’s rights, the drivers of trucks, and others employed to follow the trucks, of whom Hart was one, carried revolvers to protect the merchandise. The only testimony upon this question was that of a Mr. Goldman, who for several years, during a period covering the three offenses of Hart referred to, was in charge of the work of distributing the vegetables and other market supplies to the Fisher Bros., who was their principal customer.
Now, of course, under the provisions of the statute, Section 13448-4, General Code, if a party charged with carrying a revolver shows that he had a good reason for carrying such, the jury shall acquit the defendant. In the instant case Goldman says he and other officers of the company had permits to carry revolvers, but that Hart had none, and that he thought that the permits for him and his fellow officers were so broad that Hart and others might carry them.
Now if it is admitted, and I suppose it must be in order to make this latter defense available, that Hart was carrying a concealed weapon, but that he had the right to do so under the circumstances, when the state has proved that he has a weapon in his control the burden is upon the defendant to prove that he was *506justified in carrying it, in order to comply with the statute which authorizes the jury to acquit.
. This becomes important to remember, for one of the complaints, and the most serious complaint of all, is that the prosecutor cross-examined Mr. Goldman to such an extent that it tended to prejudice the jury and committed a wrong upon Hart by calling attention to the various times that Hart had been called in by the police, and to the fact that he had been arrested for carrying concealed weapons at least once or twice other than this time.
Now it will be remembered that Hart knew all about this, and did not take the witness stand. Had he taken the witness stand, the questions that were propounded to Mr. Goldman would undoubtedly, as admitted by learned counsel for Hart in argument, have been proper and germane to the subject. However, Hart not desiring to go upon the witness stand, and relying for his defense and his right to carry a revolver upon the testimony of Mr. Goldman, Mr. Goldman was liable to be examined upon his knowledge of the situation and likewise upon his knowledge of the character of Hart, and the former transactions of Hart, because, if there was a good reason why Hart carried a revolver other than to protect himself when at night and delivering goods from his employer to the Fisher Bros, in their various stores, that would be a question germane to the issue and of which the jury should have cognizance; so it was perfectly proper, in the judgment of the court, that these questions should have been asked. The fact of it is that in one particular instance the door was opened wider than the prosecutor had dared to open it by redirect examination of Goldman by the learned counsel for the plaintiff in error.
Ordinarily, of course, if a man does not get upon the witness stand himself, and put his character or reputation in evidence, or does not undertake to prove it *507by character witnesses, the state is barred from doing so. But there are instances where any witness who testifies for the defendant, and presumes to have certain knowledge of the defendant’s whereabouts and movements, can be interrogated at length with respect to other movements of the accused, for the purpose of testing his knowledge and ability to testify as to the whereabouts or character of the accused.
Now we think that, when Hart refused to take the witness stand, and relied upon the testimony of Goldman, and Goldman testified as to his knowledge of what Hart was carrying that revolver for, it was perfectly proper and in accordance with the rules of cross-examination that he might be interrogated so as to show that probably his knowledge was not very accurate — that the accused had other and ulterior motives for carrying the revolver; and we think all the questions, although sometimes- they are carried pretty far, were of this character, and we do not think that it was prejudicial error on the part of the prosecutor to propound these questions under the circumstances.
It is claimed likewise that the court erred in imposing the sentence in this case. The penalty provided by statute for carrying concealed weapons is from one to three years in the penitentiary. Now in this series of cases, three in number, Hart was found guilty in each case. All the convictions took place during the same term of court, and the trial court, in assessing the penalty, made the sentences consecutive; that is, in the first conviction that was had, which was the last of the series of crimes charged in the indictments, he was sentenced for a period of from one to three years in the penitentiary, and, when he was convicted upon the second offense, the one in question in this record, he was likewise sentenced for a period from one to three years, and the court provided that this sentence should not begin to run until the conclusion of the term *508of the former sentence; that is, the sentences were not to run concurrently, but one to succeed the other, and so, when in the first one in the series of events, but the last to be tried, he was likewise found guilty and sentenced for a period of from one to three years, it made a sentence aggregating for three offenses a period of from three to nine years. I believe it is claimed that, insteád of being eligible for parole at the end of one year, the minimum sentence in any one case, he could not be paroled until three years, that is, the aggregate of the three minimum sentences; whereas, if the sentences should run concurrently, he would be entitled to a parole at the close of one year.
That the court has the authority to do this is undoubted, based upon the decision of the Supreme Court in the case of Williams v. State, 18 Ohio St., 46.
We have gone over this record and have considered all the errors complained of, and we do not think that there was any such error in this record as would warrant a reviewing court in reversing the judgment; we think that the record unquestionably shows that this man was guilty of carrying a concealed weapon, and that he had not sufficient legal reason for carrying it; and, inasmuch as the burden was upon him to show that he had sufficient reason, and the jury did not acquit him, we do not see that there is any reason for disturbing the judgment, and therefore the judgment is affirmed.
Judgment affirmed.
Levine, P. J., and Weygandt, J., concur.